Thornbury and Yate MP appointed to Privy Council

Thornbury and Yate MP appointed to Privy Council

Thornbury and Yate MP appointed to Privy Council

First published in News Gazette Series: Photograph of the Author by , reporter covering Yate, Chipping Sodbury, Winterbourne, Frampton Cotterell, Rangeworthy, Wickwar, Hawkesbury, Iron Acton, Coalpit Heath and Old Sodbury

THORNBURY and Yate MP Steve Webb has been appointed a member of the Privy Council.

The Liberal Democrat MP, who lives in Olveston, received the honour from The Queen after four years of service as Minister of State for Pensions and 17 years in parliament.

The Privy Council is a group of senior parliamentarians and other leading public figures whose role is largely ceremonial and who occasionally meet with The Queen to conduct council business.

Members of the Privy Council are referred to as ‘the Right Honourable’ and this title remains with them even when they are no longer active in political life.

“It is a great honour to be appointed by The Queen to be a member of the Privy Council,” said Mr Webb.

“Although I have acquired a new honorary title, I hope I will still be simply ‘Steve’ to everyone in the local area.”

There are between 500 and 600 members of the Privy Council and the whole council would meet in the event of the death of the monarch.

Mr Webb will be formally inducted at Buckingham Palace in November but has already received his letter of appointment with a wax seal from Buckingham Palace.

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10:39am Fri 8 Aug 14

RobtheFox says...

I somehow suspect that the title "Right Honourable" would not sıt easy with around 550,000 individuals - just 4% of the total number of UK pensioners world wide.

Not "Right" because having contributed to the NI Scheme on the same terms as everyone else when working they are denied the right to withdraw on the same terms as everyone else in retirement. They are the victims of the government's frozen pension policy..no increases annually because of where they live.
Not "Honourable" because when an opposition spokesman he campaıgned for and even tabled an Early Day Motion calling for the abolition of the discrıminatory, irrelevant and illogical frozen pension policy. Now, being in a position to remedy this anomaly, he actually condones it by incorporating it as clause 20 in the New Pension Act.

To some he may be "Rt Hon." and to some even "Steve" but to others I suspect the word hypocrıte ıs not far from theır thoughts.
I somehow suspect that the title "Right Honourable" would not sıt easy with around 550,000 individuals - just 4% of the total number of UK pensioners world wide. Not "Right" because having contributed to the NI Scheme on the same terms as everyone else when working they are denied the right to withdraw on the same terms as everyone else in retirement. They are the victims of the government's frozen pension policy..no increases annually because of where they live. Not "Honourable" because when an opposition spokesman he campaıgned for and even tabled an Early Day Motion calling for the abolition of the discrıminatory, irrelevant and illogical frozen pension policy. Now, being in a position to remedy this anomaly, he actually condones it by incorporating it as clause 20 in the New Pension Act. To some he may be "Rt Hon." and to some even "Steve" but to others I suspect the word hypocrıte ıs not far from theır thoughts. RobtheFox
  • Score: 5

3:14pm Fri 8 Aug 14

janeybird says...

Having ruined the pension plans for millions and let down the frozen 4% this man get a reward? Every time I see his smug face I get the overwhelming urge to slap him.
Having ruined the pension plans for millions and let down the frozen 4% this man get a reward? Every time I see his smug face I get the overwhelming urge to slap him. janeybird
  • Score: 4

2:14pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Freda Piles says...

Regrettably, what RobtheFox has said is so very true. Over half a million pensioners retired to the Commonwealth countries in most cases with others scattered elsewhere is nothing short of theft and any Member of Parliament who voted for this should be ashamed as they show a lack of morality and integrity. This policy also goes against the Commonwealth Charter and the many other agreements signed over the years to stop all discrimination and reduce poverty, something which this policy promotes and does so against it's own citizen pensioners. Where they live in retirement is totally irrelevant and he knows this so well. The only Privy he deserves is the old one at the bottom of the garden with copies of the clause 20 to use where it belongs.
Regrettably, what RobtheFox has said is so very true. Over half a million pensioners retired to the Commonwealth countries in most cases with others scattered elsewhere is nothing short of theft and any Member of Parliament who voted for this should be ashamed as they show a lack of morality and integrity. This policy also goes against the Commonwealth Charter and the many other agreements signed over the years to stop all discrimination and reduce poverty, something which this policy promotes and does so against it's own citizen pensioners. Where they live in retirement is totally irrelevant and he knows this so well. The only Privy he deserves is the old one at the bottom of the garden with copies of the clause 20 to use where it belongs. Freda Piles
  • Score: 6

4:47pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Thornburyboy says...

So Mr Webb seems not to have many supporters in his constituency but he needn't worry about the overseas voters who weren't going to vote for him anyway.
So Mr Webb seems not to have many supporters in his constituency but he needn't worry about the overseas voters who weren't going to vote for him anyway. Thornburyboy
  • Score: -5

6:47pm Sat 9 Aug 14

RobtheFox says...

Thornburyboy wrote:
So Mr Webb seems not to have many supporters in his constituency but he needn't worry about the overseas voters who weren't going to vote for him anyway.
But they might have been resident in the constituency before going abroad and if the absence is less than fifteen years will still be eligible to vote, so perhaps he should start to worry.......
[quote][p][bold]Thornburyboy[/bold] wrote: So Mr Webb seems not to have many supporters in his constituency but he needn't worry about the overseas voters who weren't going to vote for him anyway.[/p][/quote]But they might have been resident in the constituency before going abroad and if the absence is less than fifteen years will still be eligible to vote, so perhaps he should start to worry....... RobtheFox
  • Score: 3

6:51pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Aslawr says...

It's sad some grumpy UKIP and Tory supporters find any way to pour scorn on a very fine constituency M.P. You don't have to be a LibDem to recognise his quality. One who not only serves his residents well, but who has tried to make some sense of the Pensions minefield for the country. Others recognise his merit, sad some locals don't.
It's sad some grumpy UKIP and Tory supporters find any way to pour scorn on a very fine constituency M.P. You don't have to be a LibDem to recognise his quality. One who not only serves his residents well, but who has tried to make some sense of the Pensions minefield for the country. Others recognise his merit, sad some locals don't. Aslawr
  • Score: -4

7:56pm Sun 10 Aug 14

RobtheFox says...

Aslawr wrote:
It's sad some grumpy UKIP and Tory supporters find any way to pour scorn on a very fine constituency M.P. You don't have to be a LibDem to recognise his quality. One who not only serves his residents well, but who has tried to make some sense of the Pensions minefield for the country. Others recognise his merit, sad some locals don't.
For myself my political allegiances - if I had any - play no part in my recocognising a Minister of Pensions, irrespective of his or her party, who has betrayed 550,000 UK pensioners.
Betrayed, by not only maintaining the existing regulation for current pensioners but torpedoing the retirement plans (and not just on the frozen pensions ıssue, let it be saıd), of future generatıons by incorporating the same discrimination in the new Pension Act.
You may be assured that Iain Duncan Smith, Webb's boss, and Greg McClymont, his opposite number in the House, are equally under fire for condoning this policy.
Perhaps many of the constituents were unaware of his part in this disgrace and indictment of parliament and may now wish to view his appointment to the Privy Council in a different light.
[quote][p][bold]Aslawr[/bold] wrote: It's sad some grumpy UKIP and Tory supporters find any way to pour scorn on a very fine constituency M.P. You don't have to be a LibDem to recognise his quality. One who not only serves his residents well, but who has tried to make some sense of the Pensions minefield for the country. Others recognise his merit, sad some locals don't.[/p][/quote]For myself my political allegiances - if I had any - play no part in my recocognising a Minister of Pensions, irrespective of his or her party, who has betrayed 550,000 UK pensioners. Betrayed, by not only maintaining the existing regulation for current pensioners but torpedoing the retirement plans (and not just on the frozen pensions ıssue, let it be saıd), of future generatıons by incorporating the same discrimination in the new Pension Act. You may be assured that Iain Duncan Smith, Webb's boss, and Greg McClymont, his opposite number in the House, are equally under fire for condoning this policy. Perhaps many of the constituents were unaware of his part in this disgrace and indictment of parliament and may now wish to view his appointment to the Privy Council in a different light. RobtheFox
  • Score: 5

4:45pm Mon 11 Aug 14

janeybird says...

I have no idea how "the locals" feel about their MP as I'm not one and how can you tell, Aslawr, from these comments who is, is beyond me. But what I am is someone who is adversely affected by this mans about face on frozen pensions so as far as I'm concerned he is a hypocrite. He also lied and blustered during questions at the scrutiny committee stage of the pensions bill and dismissed the plight of 4% of seniors who because of him are still being cheated and discriminated against.
I have no idea how "the locals" feel about their MP as I'm not one and how can you tell, Aslawr, from these comments who is, is beyond me. But what I am is someone who is adversely affected by this mans about face on frozen pensions so as far as I'm concerned he is a hypocrite. He also lied and blustered during questions at the scrutiny committee stage of the pensions bill and dismissed the plight of 4% of seniors who because of him are still being cheated and discriminated against. janeybird
  • Score: 6

1:59am Wed 13 Aug 14

Bagochips says...

@Aslawr.

Aslawr you wrote, "It's sad some grumpy UKIP and Tory supporters find any way to pour scorn on a very fine constituency M.P. You don't have to be a LibDem to recognise his quality. One who not only serves his residents well, but who has tried to make some sense of the Pensions minefield for the country. Others recognise his merit, sad some locals don't."

You paint the picture of a fine, honest, politically straight MP.

From where I stand I see a very different picture to you. I see a picture of a man who endorses discriminating against certain old age pensioners. Pensioners who have contributed for all of their working lives to the National insurance Fund (probably as you did) in the expectation of a full indexed state pension for when and wherever they retire. I see a man who has squirmed his way out of keeping promises, who has double-talked his way around awkward questions, and who has done so many about-turns, I've lost count.

I see a man who looks on with his eyes shut as British people find out late in their lives that their paid-for pension expectations will not be met, purely because where they want to retire to. My picture includes the DWP (under Steve Webb) not telling those people - before they moved to where they are now retired - that they would be penalised for moving to the country of their choice.

To bring it closer to home, it's like a full state pension, with all the increases being paid in London, but one without the annual increases being paid in Sodbury! Imagine a 90 year old pensioner in Glasgow trying to live on a pension that hasn't increased for 25 years. What are they supposed to do - move away to London from the ones they love, just to get their pension indexed??

If you had family abroad in certain countries and decided to join them, your hard earned state pension would be frozen for the rest of your life the minute you took the first payment of it in that country. When you began contributing to the state pension, you weren't told about that we're you? Is that fair?

Steve Webb's current pension policy that generates these conditions is a product of many UK governments, who have seen fit to continue it - purely because the last lot did!

Steve Webb threw away a fantastic opportunity to change this policy for the better, and rid the world of a shameful piece of cruel British legislation. He chose not to, in spite of pledging otherwise when he was in Opposition. Such a fine MP, such merit!!

One of Webb's recent lame excuses is that it was because the policy has been in force for "decades and decades and decades" that that makes it perfectly OK to continue. Slavery went on for 'decades and decades and decades' - and laws from all governments protected it, but did that make it right?

Steve Webb doesn't ask whether his frozen pension policy is wrong or unjust; unfair or cruel; immoral or unjustifiable; irrational or discriminatory; or if it's even an anomaly.
All those words have lately been used by British politicians of all parties (Lords included) so Webb needn't ask those questions because he already knows the answers. So does all of Parliament. Webb uttered some of those words himself!

You might say that you never want to leave wherever you live in the UK, and I'd respect anyone for saying that. But let's change the picture a little bit.

Picture that you are sixty three years old with a spouse - that you have a married son - a young family with and a grandson and grand-daughter. They leave the UK to work abroad - to Canada for example, then they decide to stay there. You and your spouse miss them so much, and you desperately need to join them there.

On arriving in Canada, you discover that your hard earned state pension is going be frozen, with no increases for inflation for the rest of your lives. This will happen the minute you take the first payment of your pension in that country. This is what happened to my wife and I, and also to a tiny 4% of the UK's total state pensioner population. This is not right! This is what Webb has perpetuated in his Pension Bill, and what he refused to change.

Webb cannot and could not justify the existence of this policy, but continued it anyway.

Aslawr, if you are working, and contributing to the British State Pension via the National Insurance Fund, have you been told about that condition?? Is it fair not to know? Shouldn't you have known long ago? Shouldn't every contributor to the National Insurance Fund have known? Shouldn't every prospective state pensioner have known?

The reasons I have outlined above, plus many more, are why I and other frozen pensioners like myself are fighting men like Steve Webb - fighting for what's ours, and what's being denied us, purely because of where we choose to live.

Would you fight for your paid for pension Aslawr??

Would you fight for a pension being stolen from you?
Would you fight for being discriminated against?
Would you fight against the lies, and the continuous deceit?
Would you fight against all the about-turns and twists that different governments have made over the years?
Would you fight for what's yours?
Would you fight to stay with your family?

Aslawr, I think you'd fight. In fact I KNOW you would!
@Aslawr. Aslawr you wrote, "It's sad some grumpy UKIP and Tory supporters find any way to pour scorn on a very fine constituency M.P. You don't have to be a LibDem to recognise his quality. One who not only serves his residents well, but who has tried to make some sense of the Pensions minefield for the country. Others recognise his merit, sad some locals don't." You paint the picture of a fine, honest, politically straight MP. From where I stand I see a very different picture to you. I see a picture of a man who endorses discriminating against certain old age pensioners. Pensioners who have contributed for all of their working lives to the National insurance Fund (probably as you did) in the expectation of a full indexed state pension for when and wherever they retire. I see a man who has squirmed his way out of keeping promises, who has double-talked his way around awkward questions, and who has done so many about-turns, I've lost count. I see a man who looks on with his eyes shut as British people find out late in their lives that their paid-for pension expectations will not be met, purely because where they want to retire to. My picture includes the DWP (under Steve Webb) not telling those people - before they moved to where they are now retired - that they would be penalised for moving to the country of their choice. To bring it closer to home, it's like a full state pension, with all the increases being paid in London, but one without the annual increases being paid in Sodbury! Imagine a 90 year old pensioner in Glasgow trying to live on a pension that hasn't increased for 25 years. What are they supposed to do - move away to London from the ones they love, just to get their pension indexed?? If you had family abroad in certain countries and decided to join them, your hard earned state pension would be frozen for the rest of your life the minute you took the first payment of it in that country. When you began contributing to the state pension, you weren't told about that we're you? Is that fair? Steve Webb's current pension policy that generates these conditions is a product of many UK governments, who have seen fit to continue it - purely because the last lot did! Steve Webb threw away a fantastic opportunity to change this policy for the better, and rid the world of a shameful piece of cruel British legislation. He chose not to, in spite of pledging otherwise when he was in Opposition. Such a fine MP, such merit!! One of Webb's recent lame excuses is that it was because the policy has been in force for "decades and decades and decades" that that makes it perfectly OK to continue. Slavery went on for 'decades and decades and decades' - and laws from all governments protected it, but did that make it right? Steve Webb doesn't ask whether his frozen pension policy is wrong or unjust; unfair or cruel; immoral or unjustifiable; irrational or discriminatory; or if it's even an anomaly. All those words have lately been used by British politicians of all parties (Lords included) so Webb needn't ask those questions because he already knows the answers. So does all of Parliament. Webb uttered some of those words himself! You might say that you never want to leave wherever you live in the UK, and I'd respect anyone for saying that. But let's change the picture a little bit. Picture that you are sixty three years old with a spouse - that you have a married son - a young family with and a grandson and grand-daughter. They leave the UK to work abroad - to Canada for example, then they decide to stay there. You and your spouse miss them so much, and you desperately need to join them there. On arriving in Canada, you discover that your hard earned state pension is going be frozen, with no increases for inflation for the rest of your lives. This will happen the minute you take the first payment of your pension in that country. This is what happened to my wife and I, and also to a tiny 4% of the UK's total state pensioner population. This is not right! This is what Webb has perpetuated in his Pension Bill, and what he refused to change. Webb cannot and could not justify the existence of this policy, but continued it anyway. Aslawr, if you are working, and contributing to the British State Pension via the National Insurance Fund, have you been told about that condition?? Is it fair not to know? Shouldn't you have known long ago? Shouldn't every contributor to the National Insurance Fund have known? Shouldn't every prospective state pensioner have known? The reasons I have outlined above, plus many more, are why I and other frozen pensioners like myself are fighting men like Steve Webb - fighting for what's ours, and what's being denied us, purely because of where we choose to live. Would you fight for your paid for pension Aslawr?? Would you fight for a pension being stolen from you? Would you fight for being discriminated against? Would you fight against the lies, and the continuous deceit? Would you fight against all the about-turns and twists that different governments have made over the years? Would you fight for what's yours? Would you fight to stay with your family? Aslawr, I think you'd fight. In fact I KNOW you would! Bagochips
  • Score: 6

4:36pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Freda Piles says...

Aslawr says...
It's sad some grumpy UKIP and Tory supporters.... blah blah...
It is a sad reflection on all democratically elected politicians when they choose to continue a long standing case of discrimination against the citizens of the UK that have done their bit and paid their way just because they have retired to another country. If you feel that this is fine and dandy then perhaps you will explain to every one else commenting here, the reasoning and logic when a pensioner retires to the USA and gets the pension uprated but retiring to a Commonwealth country like Canada next door they do not when no agreement with that country is a requirement anyway.
I commented about the Charter previously and presumably you feel that it is fine to embarrass Her Majesty the Queen by having her sign the Charter and then sign the Pensions Bill which is contrary to the content of the Charter. I have a a great respect for her and all that she does and this is sadly lacking from Mr Webb and the Department that he is in.
If we cannot have honesty , respect and integrity from the current members of parliament then they deserve to go and be replaced by those who have.
Aslawr says... It's sad some grumpy UKIP and Tory supporters.... blah blah... It is a sad reflection on all democratically elected politicians when they choose to continue a long standing case of discrimination against the citizens of the UK that have done their bit and paid their way just because they have retired to another country. If you feel that this is fine and dandy then perhaps you will explain to every one else commenting here, the reasoning and logic when a pensioner retires to the USA and gets the pension uprated but retiring to a Commonwealth country like Canada next door they do not when no agreement with that country is a requirement anyway. I commented about the Charter previously and presumably you feel that it is fine to embarrass Her Majesty the Queen by having her sign the Charter and then sign the Pensions Bill which is contrary to the content of the Charter. I have a a great respect for her and all that she does and this is sadly lacking from Mr Webb and the Department that he is in. If we cannot have honesty , respect and integrity from the current members of parliament then they deserve to go and be replaced by those who have. Freda Piles
  • Score: 5

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