Man dies in fatal car accident at Wotton-under-Edge danger spot

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  • A MAN has died following a road traffic collision in Wotton-under-Edge.
  • The crash happened at about 1.30pm today (Friday December 27) on Wotton Road, Charfield and involved a Toyota Roadster sports car and a white Nissan van.
  • AN 18-year old man from Wotton-under-Edge whom the police say was in the Nissan, passed away at the scene.
  • The road is still closed while a collision investigation takes place.
  • There have been five serious accidents on this stretch of road since May of this year and local residents are campaigning for a reduction in the speed limit.
  • Anyone who witnessed the crash today but has not spoken to police should call 101 and quote incident 267 of December 27.
  • You can also give information anonymously by contacting the charity
  • Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111 or via www.crimestoppers-uk.org

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1:38pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Actium1963 says...

It is absolutely tragic regarding the crash near Wotton on 27th December.
There is absolutely no Police presence round here to deter speeding traffic and reckless driving.
No one seems interested in doing anything about this when complaints are made to the various agencies,councils and authorities.
I send my deepest sympathies to the families involved.
It is absolutely tragic regarding the crash near Wotton on 27th December. There is absolutely no Police presence round here to deter speeding traffic and reckless driving. No one seems interested in doing anything about this when complaints are made to the various agencies,councils and authorities. I send my deepest sympathies to the families involved. Actium1963

2:09pm Sat 28 Dec 13

katleeds says...

THIS MUST STOP NOW WE HAVE TRIED AGAIN AND AGAIN TO BRING CHANGE AND HAVE BEEN MET WITH COMMENTS THAT THE ROAD IS SAFE!!!!! NOW IS THE TIME TO ACT ON THE FACE OF THIS TRAGEDY AND THE SAD LOSS OF A YOUNG MAN JUST STARTING HIS LIFE
THIS MUST STOP NOW WE HAVE TRIED AGAIN AND AGAIN TO BRING CHANGE AND HAVE BEEN MET WITH COMMENTS THAT THE ROAD IS SAFE!!!!! NOW IS THE TIME TO ACT ON THE FACE OF THIS TRAGEDY AND THE SAD LOSS OF A YOUNG MAN JUST STARTING HIS LIFE katleeds

7:08am Tue 31 Dec 13

MadSquirrel says...

Whilst I have every sympathy for the families of those involved, the fact is that this accident has nothing to do with "speeding" and everything to do with bad driving. The stretch of road already has a 40mph limit imposed, which clearly has done nothing to prevent such accidents.

My understanding is that this accident happened on one of the bends. So you have an inexperienced 18-year-old driver entering a bend too fast in adverse conditions, loses control and skids across the road into the path of an oncoming vehicle.

With the right skills and ability it is theoretically possible to take those bends at high speed - I say "theoretically" because as an experienced driver (with track experience) I wouldn't advise it to anyone in case something goes wrong.

In fact I would go so far as to say that this latest accident is a direct result of the whole "all you have to do to stay safe is not break the speed limit" policy of recent years. New drivers in particular go into autopilot, see the 40 sign and stick to 40. The poor kid in the Nissan probably went into the bend doing 40mph thinking "that's the speed limit, it must be safe", only to discover that on a wet and slippery road 40mph wasn't safe. And being 18, and therefore without much driving experience, he wouldn't have known what to do when the front end started to break away. No doubt he panicked, hit the brakes and spun out.

My suggestion to improve the safety of this stretch of the B4058 (which is slightly controversial): Get rid of the 40mph limit and restore the road to NSL. This will then force drivers to assess the road and drive at a speed consistent with conditions and ability, rather than blindly sticking to 40mph because "that's the speed limit". On this occasion, and in these conditions, 40mph was too fast for entry into that bend, 30mph may have been more sensible, maybe less.

Of course there's always the strong possibility that the driver of the Nissan was going a LOT faster than 40mph on entry to the bend, which is what caused the loss of control. In which case, ratcheting down the limit on that road even more would still serve no purpose whatsoever.

We need to get out of this "speed limits fix everything" mentality as it's making the roads more dangerous by eroding true driving skill, hazard perception, individual risk assessment etc.
Whilst I have every sympathy for the families of those involved, the fact is that this accident has nothing to do with "speeding" and everything to do with bad driving. The stretch of road already has a 40mph limit imposed, which clearly has done nothing to prevent such accidents. My understanding is that this accident happened on one of the bends. So you have an inexperienced 18-year-old driver entering a bend too fast in adverse conditions, loses control and skids across the road into the path of an oncoming vehicle. With the right skills and ability it is theoretically possible to take those bends at high speed - I say "theoretically" because as an experienced driver (with track experience) I wouldn't advise it to anyone in case something goes wrong. In fact I would go so far as to say that this latest accident is a direct result of the whole "all you have to do to stay safe is not break the speed limit" policy of recent years. New drivers in particular go into autopilot, see the 40 sign and stick to 40. The poor kid in the Nissan probably went into the bend doing 40mph thinking "that's the speed limit, it must be safe", only to discover that on a wet and slippery road 40mph wasn't safe. And being 18, and therefore without much driving experience, he wouldn't have known what to do when the front end started to break away. No doubt he panicked, hit the brakes and spun out. My suggestion to improve the safety of this stretch of the B4058 (which is slightly controversial): Get rid of the 40mph limit and restore the road to NSL. This will then force drivers to assess the road and drive at a speed consistent with conditions and ability, rather than blindly sticking to 40mph because "that's the speed limit". On this occasion, and in these conditions, 40mph was too fast for entry into that bend, 30mph may have been more sensible, maybe less. Of course there's always the strong possibility that the driver of the Nissan was going a LOT faster than 40mph on entry to the bend, which is what caused the loss of control. In which case, ratcheting down the limit on that road even more would still serve no purpose whatsoever. We need to get out of this "speed limits fix everything" mentality as it's making the roads more dangerous by eroding true driving skill, hazard perception, individual risk assessment etc. MadSquirrel

12:58pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Wreckwatcher says...

Yet more ridiculous hand-wringing over a so-called "accident". We witness selfish, reckless driving everywhere now. What about the poor occupants of the van who were injured as a result of the actions of the driver of the other vehicle?

Mad Squirrel (above) has got it right.
Yet more ridiculous hand-wringing over a so-called "accident". We witness selfish, reckless driving everywhere now. What about the poor occupants of the van who were injured as a result of the actions of the driver of the other vehicle? Mad Squirrel (above) has got it right. Wreckwatcher

1:46pm Tue 31 Dec 13

MadSquirrel says...

Also, has anyone noticed how poor the surface is on that road? The surface has worn smooth, meaning that water tends to collect. This leads to an increased risk of aquaplaning.

An inexperienced driver in a poorly maintained car (ie tyres run down to the wear markers - because they can't afford to replace them any sooner due to sky-high fuel and insurance costs) hitting a stretch of road like this is a disaster waiting to happen. You can still have a fatal crash at 30mph.
Also, has anyone noticed how poor the surface is on that road? The surface has worn smooth, meaning that water tends to collect. This leads to an increased risk of aquaplaning. An inexperienced driver in a poorly maintained car (ie tyres run down to the wear markers - because they can't afford to replace them any sooner due to sky-high fuel and insurance costs) hitting a stretch of road like this is a disaster waiting to happen. You can still have a fatal crash at 30mph. MadSquirrel

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